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Cursor doesn't "push" text forward

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Hi. When I edit a Word doc and place the "blinking bar" in front of a line of

text (on the left margin) why doesn't the space bar push the text forward? If

I move the "blinking bar" after the first character in the line, the space

bar works. I have Word 2007 but it's the same in all versions of Word. Why is

this? Is it possible to fix this so the space bar push text from the

beginning of the line? Thank you.

Jimmy

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    • What happens when you press the space bar or type other text? Does existing

      text in front of the cursor get deleted?

      If so... then you're in Overtype mode. Press the Insert key to toggle

      Overtype off. There should be an indicator at the bottom of the Word window

      in the status bar. You can also toggle Overtype on/off by clicking that

      indicator. If you don't see it, then right click the status bar and choose

      Overtype.

      Herb Tyson MS MVP

      Author of the Word 2007 Bible

      Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com

      Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

      "Jimmy" <Jimmy.ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

      news:B9886E0B-E63C-47BA-9D85-FA5A4107317C.ms-word.todaysummary.com.microsoft.com...

      > Hi. When I edit a Word doc and place the "blinking bar" in front of a line

      > of

      > text (on the left margin) why doesn't the space bar push the text forward?

      > If

      > I move the "blinking bar" after the first character in the line, the space

      > bar works. I have Word 2007 but it's the same in all versions of Word. Why

      > is

      > this? Is it possible to fix this so the space bar push text from the

      > beginning of the line? Thank you.

      > Jimmy

      #1; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:10:00 GMT
    • Dear Herb, thanks for the prompt reply. It is not an overtype issue, which I

      have dealt with in the past. The text in front of the cursor is not getting

      deleted. My issue is happening in a Word doc. I have Auto-format turned off.

      I'll type an example:

      1. This is a sample of what happens when I try to "push"

      the word "the" forward in this sentence.

      In the example above, if I were to type the first line until the right

      margin moved the text to the next line, or just pushed the "Enter" key after

      "push" and then placed the blinking bar in front of the second line starting

      word (the), the space bar would not advance the text forward. If I placed the

      blinking cursor between the letters t and h in the word "the", I could then

      push the h and all of the following text forward. Why can't I push starting

      at the beginning of the line? This is not a "corrupted" issue. It has bugged

      me in Office XP and Office 2003 also. Why doesn't the space bar work from any

      location?!?! Can I fix this? Thanks. Jimmy.

      "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

      > What happens when you press the space bar or type other text? Does existing

      > text in front of the cursor get deleted?

      > If so... then you're in Overtype mode. Press the Insert key to toggle

      > Overtype off. There should be an indicator at the bottom of the Word window

      > in the status bar. You can also toggle Overtype on/off by clicking that

      > indicator. If you don't see it, then right click the status bar and choose

      > Overtype.

      > --

      > Herb Tyson MS MVP

      > Author of the Word 2007 Bible

      > Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com

      > Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

      > "Jimmy" <Jimmy.ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

      > news:B9886E0B-E63C-47BA-9D85-FA5A4107317C.ms-word.todaysummary.com.microsoft.com...

      >

      #2; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:11:00 GMT
    • What's happening is that the spaces are being added at the beginning of the

      preceding line. If you press Ctrl+Shift+8 to toggle non-printing formatting

      marks ON, you can see it happening. Word inserts the spaces at the end of

      the preceding line precisely to avoid the non-printing spaces affecting the

      text on the next line.

      Basically... the answer is that Word is not like a typewriter. Word doesn't

      want you to insert spaces to move stuff to the right. If you want the word

      "the" to move to the right, there are other and arguably better ways to do

      it.

      However... if you want to do it with spaces, then you'll need to use

      non-breaking spaces, by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Spacebar.

      Herb Tyson MS MVP

      Author of the Word 2007 Bible

      Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com

      Web: http://www.herbtyson.com

      "Jimmy" <Jimmy.ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

      news:609963CB-925A-4279-814A-AC4DB0C91C10.ms-word.todaysummary.com.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]

      > Dear Herb, thanks for the prompt reply. It is not an overtype issue, which

      > I

      > have dealt with in the past. The text in front of the cursor is not

      > getting

      > deleted. My issue is happening in a Word doc. I have Auto-format turned

      > off.

      > I'll type an example:

      > 1. This is a sample of what happens when I try to "push"

      > the word "the" forward in this sentence.

      > In the example above, if I were to type the first line until the right

      > margin moved the text to the next line, or just pushed the "Enter" key

      > after

      > "push" and then placed the blinking bar in front of the second line

      > starting

      > word (the), the space bar would not advance the text forward. If I placed

      > the

      > blinking cursor between the letters t and h in the word "the", I could

      > then

      > push the h and all of the following text forward. Why can't I push

      > starting

      > at the beginning of the line? This is not a "corrupted" issue. It has

      > bugged

      > me in Office XP and Office 2003 also. Why doesn't the space bar work from

      > any

      > location?!?! Can I fix this? Thanks. Jimmy.

      >

      >

      > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

      #3; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:12:00 GMT
    • You should be able to "push" the line with spaces after a paragraph break

      (or line break), but you can't do it after a normal line wrap because the

      spaces pile up at the end of the previous line. If you display nonprinting

      characters, you'll see how this works. There is a Compatibility Option that

      can change this ("Wrap trailing spaces to next line"), but I don't really

      advise using that. Instead, depending on what you are trying to do, use a

      hanging indent or some other spacing option.

      Suzanne S. Barnhill

      Microsoft MVP (Word)

      Words into Type

      Fairhope, Alabama USA

      "Jimmy" <Jimmy.ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

      news:609963CB-925A-4279-814A-AC4DB0C91C10.ms-word.todaysummary.com.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]

      > Dear Herb, thanks for the prompt reply. It is not an overtype issue, which

      > I

      > have dealt with in the past. The text in front of the cursor is not

      > getting

      > deleted. My issue is happening in a Word doc. I have Auto-format turned

      > off.

      > I'll type an example:

      > 1. This is a sample of what happens when I try to "push"

      > the word "the" forward in this sentence.

      > In the example above, if I were to type the first line until the right

      > margin moved the text to the next line, or just pushed the "Enter" key

      > after

      > "push" and then placed the blinking bar in front of the second line

      > starting

      > word (the), the space bar would not advance the text forward. If I placed

      > the

      > blinking cursor between the letters t and h in the word "the", I could

      > then

      > push the h and all of the following text forward. Why can't I push

      > starting

      > at the beginning of the line? This is not a "corrupted" issue. It has

      > bugged

      > me in Office XP and Office 2003 also. Why doesn't the space bar work from

      > any

      > location?!?! Can I fix this? Thanks. Jimmy.

      >

      >

      > "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

      #4; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:13:00 GMT
    • Dear Suzanne, thank you for your response. After a little more experimenting

      I think I was incorrect in stating that hitting the "enter" key before the

      "wrap" didn't allow me to "push" the next line. I know there is a reason why

      you can't push a wrapped line with the spacebar but I can't figure what it

      is. What difference does it make?! I used Herb's suggestion of Ctrl+Sh+8 and

      I could then see the space bar "dots" trail off into infinity and beyond.

      (Where do they go?!) Anyway, I may turn auto format back on and experiment

      with the margin and indent thing some more. I turned it off because changing

      numbers and doing other things was a big hassle and I don't use Word enough

      to remember the steps. I number my paragraphs 1.2.3...etc. All I am trying

      to do is make the lines past the first line be at about the same indent as

      the first line. It sounds easy (and maybe it is) but I can't seem to figure

      it out. I know. I know. Get "Word for Dummies". I'll tell you this much, I'll

      be using Herb's Ctrl+Sh+spacebar over-ride with reckless abandon. What's not

      to like? I can move my text where I want and it prints fine. Thanks again.

      Jimmy.

      "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

      > You should be able to "push" the line with spaces after a paragraph break

      > (or line break), but you can't do it after a normal line wrap because the

      > spaces pile up at the end of the previous line. If you display nonprinting

      > characters, you'll see how this works. There is a Compatibility Option that

      > can change this ("Wrap trailing spaces to next line"), but I don't really

      > advise using that. Instead, depending on what you are trying to do, use a

      > hanging indent or some other spacing option.

      > --

      > Suzanne S. Barnhill

      > Microsoft MVP (Word)

      > Words into Type

      > Fairhope, Alabama USA

      > "Jimmy" <Jimmy.ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

      > news:609963CB-925A-4279-814A-AC4DB0C91C10.ms-word.todaysummary.com.microsoft.com...

      >

      >

      #5; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:14:00 GMT
    • Suzanne diagnosed your solution precisely.

      Go to Format | Paragraph | Indentation | Special | Hanging.

      You can set this "hanging indent" in one of your styles, or it will be

      followed in each successive paragraph until you select Normal style

      again.

      (Speaking as an editor and typesetter, it is a real nightmare when an

      author tries to "format" paragraphs with spaces or tabs.)

      On Feb 7, 5:04Xpm, Jimmy <Ji....ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]

      > Dear Suzanne, thank you for your response. After a little more experimenting

      > I think I was incorrect in stating that hitting the "enter" key before the

      > "wrap" didn't allow me to "push" the next line. I know there is a reason why

      > you can't push a wrapped line with the spacebar but I can't figure what it

      > is. What difference does it make?! I used Herb's suggestion of Ctrl+Sh+8 and

      > I could then see the space bar "dots" trail off into infinity and beyond.

      > (Where do they go?!) Anyway, I may turn auto format back on and experiment

      > with the margin and indent thing some more. I turned it off because changing

      > numbers and doing other things was a big hassle and I don't use Word enough

      > to remember the steps. I number my paragraphs 1.2.3...etc. All I am trying

      > to do is make the lines past the first line be at about the same indent as

      > the first line. It sounds easy (and maybe it is) but I can't seem to figure

      > it out. I know. I know. Get "Word for Dummies". I'll tell you this much, I'll

      > be using Herb's Ctrl+Sh+spacebar over-ride with reckless abandon. What's not

      > to like? I can move my text where I want and it prints fine. Thanks again.

      > Jimmy.

      >

      > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

      >

      >

      >

      >

      #6; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:15:00 GMT
    • Thanks for the reponse. I can't say I agree with you about Suzanne's

      "precise" solution. I do a lot of copy and pasting of text into Word

      documents. As soon as you paste text, it over-rides the special/hanging and

      everything goes back to the left margin, so I'm back to square one. I am

      obviously not a student of Word, but it seems to have too many complicated

      ways to do things that I think should be easier. If I was submitting anything

      I created using Word to an editor or typesetter, I would learn how to use it

      properly, but I'm far from that stage. I'm finished with this discussion.

      Thanks everybody. Jimmy

      "grammatim" wrote:

      > Suzanne diagnosed your solution precisely.

      > Go to Format | Paragraph | Indentation | Special | Hanging.

      > You can set this "hanging indent" in one of your styles, or it will be

      > followed in each successive paragraph until you select Normal style

      > again.

      > (Speaking as an editor and typesetter, it is a real nightmare when an

      > author tries to "format" paragraphs with spaces or tabs.)

      > On Feb 7, 5:04 pm, Jimmy <Ji....ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

      >

      #7; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:16:00 GMT
    • It only overrides if you replace one paragraph mark with another

      paragraph mark. You might get stuff with the old formatting plopped

      into the middle of the text you're pasting it into, but you fix that

      either by keeping it selected and clicking on the style name, or with

      that annoying button that appears whenever you paste something, which

      has an option for taking on the formatting of the new context.

      On Feb 7, 8:40Xpm, Jimmy <Ji....ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]

      > Thanks for the reponse. I can't say I agree with you about Suzanne's

      > "precise" solution. I do a lot of copy and pasting of text into Word

      > documents. As soon as you paste text, it over-rides the special/hanging and

      > everything goes back to the left margin, so I'm back to square one. XI am

      > obviously not a student of Word, but it seems to have too many complicated

      > ways to do things that I think should be easier. If I was submitting anything

      > I created using Word to an editor or typesetter, I would learn how to use it

      > properly, but I'm far from that stage. I'm finished with this discussion.

      > Thanks everybody. Jimmy

      >

      > "grammatim" wrote:

      >

      >

      >

      >

      >

      >

      #8; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:17:00 GMT
    • FWIW, if the Paste Options button annoys you, you can disable it on the Edit

      tab of Tools | Options.

      Suzanne S. Barnhill

      Microsoft MVP (Word)

      Words into Type

      Fairhope, Alabama USA

      "grammatim" <grammatim.ms-word.todaysummary.com.verizon.net> wrote in message

      news:c8b9129d-34d4-47fe-b83b-6cb779ee42b9.ms-word.todaysummary.com.e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

      It only overrides if you replace one paragraph mark with another

      paragraph mark. You might get stuff with the old formatting plopped

      into the middle of the text you're pasting it into, but you fix that

      either by keeping it selected and clicking on the style name, or with

      that annoying button that appears whenever you paste something, which

      has an option for taking on the formatting of the new context.

      On Feb 7, 8:40 pm, Jimmy <Ji....ms-word.todaysummary.com.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]

      > Thanks for the reponse. I can't say I agree with you about Suzanne's

      > "precise" solution. I do a lot of copy and pasting of text into Word

      > documents. As soon as you paste text, it over-rides the special/hanging

      > and

      > everything goes back to the left margin, so I'm back to square one. I am

      > obviously not a student of Word, but it seems to have too many complicated

      > ways to do things that I think should be easier. If I was submitting

      > anything

      > I created using Word to an editor or typesetter, I would learn how to use

      > it

      > properly, but I'm far from that stage. I'm finished with this discussion.

      > Thanks everybody. Jimmy

      >

      > "grammatim" wrote:

      >

      >

      >

      >

      >

      >

      #9; Fri, 30 May 2008 21:18:00 GMT